#69806: "Allow player to choose order of end-of-round effects"
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• Por favor, copia e pega a mensaxe de erro que ves na túa pantalla, se houbera algún.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Por favor, explica o que querías facer, o que fixeche e o que pasou
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Mozilla v5
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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Mozilla v5
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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Mozilla v5
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• Qué había na pantalla cando se quedou bloqueado? (mensaxe de erro?, pantalla en blanco?, unha parte da interface do xogo?)
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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Mozilla v5
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• Qué parte das regras non se cumpriron na adaptación da BGA?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• é visible a violación das regras na repetición? Se o é, en que número de movemento?
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Mozilla v5
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• Qué acción de xogo querías realizar?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Qué é o que tratache de facer para activar esta acción do xogo?
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• Qué sucedeu cando o fixeche (a mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
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Mozilla v5
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• En que paso do xogo ocorreu o problema (cal foi a instrucción actual do xogo)?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Qué sucedeu cando tratache de facer unha acción de xogo (mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
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Mozilla v5
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• Por favor, describe o problema de visualización. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Mozilla v5
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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Mozilla v5
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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Mozilla v5
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Still, you can never have a hard-coded order which will work for all cases, there will always be corner cases, for example:
- A player may want to have fewer crystals (so intentionally triggering Wondrous Chest at 3 energies, before Heart of Argos or after Fairy Monolith) to kill an opponent Titus.
- A player may want to activate Horn of Plenty without energies in their reserve (before using Beggar's Horn or Heart of Argos) to have more energies the next turn
- For the two random effects Dial of Colof and Carnivora Strombosea, the player may decide one based on the outcome of the other
So ideally the player should be able to choose explicitly in which order effects happen.
Unfortunately, a naive implementation would slow down the game (especially turn-based games) if automatic effects such as Wondrous Chest or Titus Deepgaze would no longer be automatic. So the game should still do these automatic effects without player interaction if the order doesn't matter (determining whether the order matters may be non-trivial)
- Dial of Colof
- Damned Soul of Onys
- Ethiel's Fountain
- Carnivora Strombosea
- Beggar's Horn
- Heart of Argos
- Titus Deepgaze
- Wondrous Chest
- Mesodae’s Lantern
- Io's transmuter
- Fairy Monolith
- Chalice of eternity
- Horn of Plenty
but where we will restart the list whenever an effect actually triggers. So the fact that Horn of Plenty is last in thi list doesn't mean that no further effects are possible: whenever Horn of Plenty triggers, then we'll recheck the list from the beginning.
The general principle remains that the player retains the choice between performing these actions manually or performing them automatically. Seasons is a notable exception because it seems to me that this is one of the first games implemented on BGA, if not the first. In my opinion, there is no longer any reason to retain this exception, as soon as a developer recognizes the need for necessary changes.
It should already be noted that automatism is of much less interest now that the end-round effects are solved by player in the order of the turn and no longer card by card as before. In addition, some end-of-turn effects require player intervention anyway, for example to choose an effect, or the type of energy received.
However, when there is only one end-of-turn effect, and no choice is required, the player’s intervention is not useful.
Fiercely in favour of strict application of the rules, I would add that it would be useful, in case of manual selection of cards with end-of-turn effects, to be able to differentiate the achievable effects from the inoperative effects by a color code. This in order to be able to choose more easily to activate inoperative effects (but which could become achievable during the end-of-turn of the player) because deemed undesirable at this time of the game.
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