#47043: "Limit 'no time limit' option of normal mode for only reciprocal friends"
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• Por favor, copia e pega a mensaxe de erro que ves na túa pantalla, se houbera algún.
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. -
• Por favor, explica o que querías facer, o que fixeche e o que pasou
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Qué había na pantalla cando se quedou bloqueado? (mensaxe de erro?, pantalla en blanco?, unha parte da interface do xogo?)
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Qué parte das regras non se cumpriron na adaptación da BGA?
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. -
• é visible a violación das regras na repetición? Se o é, en que número de movemento?
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Qué acción de xogo querías realizar?
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. -
• Qué é o que tratache de facer para activar esta acción do xogo?
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• Qué sucedeu cando o fixeche (a mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• En que paso do xogo ocorreu o problema (cal foi a instrucción actual do xogo)?
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. -
• Qué sucedeu cando tratache de facer unha acción de xogo (mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Por favor, describe o problema de visualización. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí.
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
The option in question is heavily abused against unsuspecting players, stealing victory and leaving a sour taste in the participant's mouth.
For example: boardgamearena.com/player?id=86113340
This player has created thousands of tables with that setting and then leaves losing game to be delayed abandoned, to boost his own ratings. • Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v92
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This feature is useful even if you are not befriended yet. I use it for example for teaching games to newbies who will not necessarely become friends.
I would not remove such a useful feature because it enables cheating, that is IMO the wrong way to go. Trust should be the starting point, because it makes life for the majority easier (which is a goal for BGA).
It should be better to track players who abuse it with evidence they do, as for any other case of cheating.*
Thanks!
I rarely use training mode and I think most players don't because it is not the default.
Even for teaching game I switch off training mode so that the beginner can be rewarded if they win ;) (Elo boost + points).
Removing no time limit in ranking games would be a mistake IMO.
Not everyone requires a learning game, and even if someone does they don't play learning game repeatedly.
They will eventually move on and enjoy regular games.
Even though training mode is rarely used, it is better suited for learning purpose, as the name suggests.
'Beginner can be rewarded', I don't buy it.
Someone requiring a tutor to learn a game has significantly lower chance to win, needless to say.
Considering the skill gap the tutor is expected to win.
(Even seen some players beating a bunch of beginners in their own gaming group to rack up ELO points, but that's another story...)
In a sense, playing teaching game in normal mode is robbing a chance of rapid ELO gain from the beginner.
Normal mode games count against initial K-factor boost. Training mode games do not.
Also, tutors might want to play suboptimal moves to show the beginner how to play.
For example, playing every possible action in the game just to teach the rules, regardless of the action's efficiency.
Playing in normal mode effectively discourages such behaviors.
And again, I didn't say 'let's remove no time limit in ranking games', but limiting it to reciprocal friends.
They can't even handle obvious cheaters. Just look around backgammon or tichu forum.
So... better safe than sorry.
That signifies mutual trust, doesn't it?
Otherwise, your argumentation is relevant but I think we have two points of view and philosophies about what the platform should be which are to different to conciliate (safety versus features), so I won't elaborate more.
Thanks.
Wood
> However, there IS an issue where after I play several games with a friend on "real-time • no time limit" and the settings save that, the next open table I make remembers those settings and lets the table go through even if it's a random player that joins my table.
I used to forget that the no time limit option was on and just started the game (granted, no one really had a problem so far thankfully since in my case, Hanabi is a co-op game so both players *want* to be playing), but this would be problematic for games that are competitive and probably have lots of players, like for example 6nimmt.
Recently, no time limit has been changed to training mode only.
See #78071 for a suggestion to turn it back to "friends only".
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