#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
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• Por favor, copia e pega a mensaxe de erro que ves na túa pantalla, se houbera algún.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Por favor, explica o que querías facer, o que fixeche e o que pasou
31 and 48
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Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Qué había na pantalla cando se quedou bloqueado? (mensaxe de erro?, pantalla en blanco?, unha parte da interface do xogo?)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Qué parte das regras non se cumpriron na adaptación da BGA?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• é visible a violación das regras na repetición? Se o é, en que número de movemento?
31 and 48
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Google Chrome v89
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• Qué acción de xogo querías realizar?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Qué é o que tratache de facer para activar esta acción do xogo?
31 and 48
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• Qué sucedeu cando o fixeche (a mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
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Google Chrome v89
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• En que paso do xogo ocorreu o problema (cal foi a instrucción actual do xogo)?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Qué sucedeu cando tratache de facer unha acción de xogo (mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
31 and 48
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor, describe o problema de visualización. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes unha captura de pantalla deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar un servizo de hospedaxe de imaxes da túa elección (snipboard.io, por exemplo) para subila e copiar/pegar o enlace aquí. É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
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