#19689: "Manual scoring + muggins variant (failing at scoring benefits the opponent)"
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• Por favor, copia e pega a mensaxe de erro que ves na túa pantalla, se houbera algún.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Qué había na pantalla cando se quedou bloqueado? (mensaxe de erro?, pantalla en blanco?, unha parte da interface do xogo?)
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Qué parte das regras non se cumpriron na adaptación da BGA?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Qué acción de xogo querías realizar?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Qué é o que tratache de facer para activar esta acción do xogo?
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• En que paso do xogo ocorreu o problema (cal foi a instrucción actual do xogo)?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Qué sucedeu cando tratache de facer unha acción de xogo (mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
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I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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I have been tossing around the idea of muggings,
There are a couple of issues I can't get around
First it would slow down the game as each player would have to wait for the count, and an extra "turn" in turn based games, but if both players agree to this style it is no big issue.
Another is the UI
BGA GuideLines state
II-2 Use left clic only● The whole game should be playable with only simple left button mouse clicks.● Context menus should not be used.●Dragndrop should be avoided (if you want to use it anyway, you should make a click basedalternative available).● Mouse icon must change on cliquable elements (« cursor:pointer » CSS property)..
So I would have to display a grid of 29 buttons (0-29) or of 3 buttons +/-/OK and the user would have to click up to 29 times (if they are lucky)
The final hurdle is the muggins themselves,
I would have to display this interface to both players all the time, if I only give the opponent an opportunity to correct the count when a miscount is done then that would tip the player off that something was miscounted.
Then how would each situation be handled
Player A | Player B
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correct | correct -- this is easy
correct | higher -- should there be a penalty*
correct | lower -- **
lower | lower than Player A
lower | higher than Player A
higher | lower than Player A
higher | higher than Player A
*from section 10.4a of the American Cribbage College rule book
If the judges determine that the play
was not a muggins, the opponent will be awarded
the points taken as a penalty.
** 10.4a
If the true amount
of underpegging is determined to be other than
the amount originally claimed, the caller is entitled only to the lesser of the claimed or true
amounts. In no case shall the amount of points
awarded for muggins exceed the actual number
of holes that could have been pegged had the
scoring been correctly done.
www.cribbage.org/NewSite/rules/ACCRuleBook2016.pdf
I am open to any suggestions, especially variants that will give BGA players more ways to play, I just don't know how to overcome these hurdles. Please feel free to offer more feedback
4 - 5 - 5 - 6
You'd click
5 - 5 - "score" : +2 pair
4 - 5 - 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
just selecting and clicking "score" the way you select and put in the crib.
have "score" and "done" in the action bar.
A "simplistic" muggins would be to just _give_ to the opponent anything they missed, without making her do anything!
Otherwise you could then just give them same UI to the opponent who would just click "done" or click the missing scoring things.
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