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15. Apr 2020 00:19 • dominellen • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

happens in chrome and firefox. seems to persist. other games did have correct win percentages.
the win number and times played numbers are correct, e.g.: "1 Games • 1 Victories • 300% wins "

15. Apr 2020 00:23 • dominellen • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

looks like this is a duplicate of boardgamearena.com/bug?id=1744

16. Apr 2020 09:36 • Firewood Rental • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

imgur.com/aG6F2ve

18. Apr 2020 20:40 • Snapper67 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

imgur.com/vx5EMFe

27. May 2020 19:54 • MJDominus • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

This is a screenshot I just took from my user profile page at boardgamearena.com/player

plover.com/~mjd/misc/yahtzee-screenshot.png

It says: “20 Games • 15 Victories • 78% wins”.

15/20 is 75%, not 78%.

27. May 2020 20:00 • MJDominus • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Now I understand from en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Faq#What_does_the_.27.25_hits.27_statistic_mean.3F that "78% wins" doesn't mean I won 78% of my games, it means that I have averaged 0.78 victory points per game, where a win in a multiplayer game may award more than one point.

The phrasing and placement of the message are extremely confusing. What if you formatted it something like this?

20 Games • 15 Victories (75%) • 15½ VP (0.78 VP/g)

This makes clear that the 78 is not a victory percentage. You could link the “VP” text to go to the paragraph of the FAQ that explains it.

5. Sep 2020 05:31 • emshink • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

This is very misleading. Is there some meaning to this statistic? It seems like win percentage would be a much more useful statistic. Please consider changing the statistic or at least making it more clear what is being calculated.

11. Nov 2020 16:35 • junibegood • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

From the explnation of the FAQ, I get that the purpose of this stat is to take into consideration the fact that winning a 5-player game is harder than winning a 2-player game.

But the wording is misleading (because it's not a % of wins at all, it can go well above 100 !), and the maths are weird. It awards 2 points for winning a 4-player game and 1 point for winning a 2-player game. But since you need to beat 3 opponents instead of one, it makes more sense to consider a 4-player game 3 times harder to win than a 2-player game.

I sugeest replacing this calculation by something more straightforward : number of opponents who finished behind you in games / total number of opponents.

This would reflect how often you beat your opponents, and would really be a % since it can only go between 0 and 100.

13. Nov 2020 12:35 • Niall • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

I’ve got the same issues. Completed 3 x 4P games of Voyages of Marco Polo. 3 games, 2 wins, 133% wins! However you explain it this is wrong maths!

Agree with junibegood’s suggestion.
e.g. If you come 1st in any game that should be a maximum of 1 win. 2nd in a 4P game you should get 0.67 wins for it, etc.

20. Nov 2020 14:39 • hannes1990 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

same Issue here: imgur.com/a/W0HkXtb

4. Dec 2020 21:13 • Adrien93 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

I can't upload a picture but the percentage of winning is completely incorrect, in all games i have ever played. Sometimes > 100%

4. Dec 2020 21:18 • Adrien93 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Adding my url as a player, where bug can be visualized :
boardgamearena.com/player?id=86956956

=> I can't upload a picture but the percentage of winning is completely incorrect, in all games i have ever played. Sometimes > 100%

18. Dec 2020 16:08 • Raccoon974 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

8 games ; 0 win; 6% win
But I do remember to win a game

8. Feb 2021 12:52 • sergut • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Here is another screenshot:

i.postimg.cc/bvmJH6D7/bug-report-for-BGA.png

The text says:
"Carcassonne: Hunters & Gatherers. 1 Games • 1 Victories • 250% wins
Sapiens. 2 Games • 1 Victories • 100% wins". "

Either the ratio of 'wins' is wrongly calculated or this should not be called 'wins' and it should not be showed as a percent. Showing '250%' on the screen looks really bad.

junibegood’s suggestion above makes sense for the actual percentage, but the name 'wins' would still be confusing. I would suggest a straightwoforward "Ended ahead of xx% of opponents".

A 'win' is the act of being the winner in a game, regardless of number of players, difficulty, or whatever. If one calls it 'wins', it should measure wins. If this statistic measures something else, it should be called something else. :-)

17. Feb 2021 03:02 • dandyfancy • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Letter Tycoon
I've won 2 games out of 3 but it says I've won 0 games and my game points don't go up.

24. Feb 2021 11:57 • NeKlukas • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Same issue, really annoying.

Here I uploaded my scores and most of them are incorrect (marked red):

ibb.co/Dbkys7t

18. Mar 2021 01:24 • HiDrew • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Elfenland
5 Games • 3 Victories • 90% wins

7 Wonders
20 Games • 8 Victories • 88% wins

Carcassonne
9 Games • 5 Victories • 78% wins

Colt Express
13 Games • 4 Victories • 54% wins

6 nimmt!
4 Games • 4 Victories • 150% wins

Terra Mystica
1 Games • 1 Victories • 150% wins

Kingdomino
5 Games • 4 Victories • 120% wins

Welcome To
4 Games • 2 Victories • 150% wins

Saboteur
2 Games • 1 Victories • 75% wins

Celestia
1 Games • 1 Victories • 200% wins

Seasons
1 Games • 1 Victories • 150% wins

Dice Forge
4 Games • 2 Victories • 63% wins

Love Letter
4 Games • 1 Victories • 38% wins

Takenoko
2 Games • 1 Victories • 75% wins

Just Desserts
2 Games • 1 Victories • 75% wins

For Sale
5 Games • 2 Victories • 60% wins

Sushi Go!
5 Games • 2 Victories • 60% wins

30. Mar 2021 17:50 • BlueFreak • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Here's another screenshot, imgur.com/a/fQWhjJB, and an excerpt of the HTML with the bad calculation:

<div class="palmares_game">

<img src="x.boardgamearena.net/data/themereleases/210325-1020/games/splits/current/img/game_icon.png" class="palmares_gameicon game_icon" />
<a href="gamepanel?game=splits" class="gamename game_name">Battle Sheep</a><br/>
<div class="gamerank gamerank_apprentice "><span class="icon20 icon20_rankw"></span> <span class="gamerank_value" id="elo_game_47" ">74</span></div> <br/>
<div class="palmares_details">
1 Games •
1 Victories •
200% wins

<div class='smalltext clear'>
<a href="playerstat?id=88615154&game=47" rel="nofollow"><div class='icon20' style='background-position: 0px -200px;'></div> My statistics for this game</a>
</div>

</div>
<br class="clear" />
</div>

11. Jul 2021 13:28 • arachna • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

different, but same header.. training game of medo gets counted as a draw for the percentage. I think a training game is not supposed to be counted at all, being just a training game, but if it is, it should be counted correctly.

currently 6 games (1 training), 6 wins
and it says 6 games, 5 wins, 92% victory rate

15. Dec 2021 09:42 • SebDemiss • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Same issue here (these are just examples, there are much more)

Quetzal
2 parties • 1 victoires • 100% succès

Lost Explorers
1 parties • 1 victoires • 150% succès

Abyss
5 parties • 4 victoires • 140% succès

Médina
4 parties • 3 victoires • 100% succès

Oriflamme
9 parties • 2 victoires • 72% succès

19. Dec 2021 19:43 • KarlX • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Just calculating win percentage as [number of games won] / [number of games played] would be misleading. A person playing only 2-player games would get a better rating compared to a player prefering higher player counts.

But, the current system is not good either, since i will show ratings above 100% and because of this it is very hard to know what is actually calculated.

My suggestion is to calculate it as [number of opponents that I finished better than] / [total number of opponenets]. This way the number will take the player count into consideration and the number will be kept between 0 and 100.

15. Jan 2022 19:41 • Lofski • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

KarlX's suggestion is good - changing it to % of total opponents won out of all opponents (a player counts as different opponents in different tables). In games where loss is shared by multiple players, a loss would be counted only VS the winner, and winning would count VS all the losers.

7. Aug 2022 00:35 • Momo19380 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

My stat :

Hanbi
130 parties • 122 victoires • 47% succès => instead of 94%

Puissance Quatre
118 parties • 41 victoires • 35% succès => It's OK

Yahtzee
38 parties • 20 victoires • 55% succès => instead of 53%
Mes statistiques à ce jeu

Belote
18 parties • 9 victoires • 67% succès => instead of 50%

Chromino
9 parties • 3 victoires • 56% succès => instead of 33%

11. Sep 2022 00:04 • tsunami82it • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Hi have same problem on more than one game:
Stone Age:
3 Partite • 3 Vittorie • 183% successi

Get on Board: New York & Londra:
8 Partite • 2 Vittorie • 44% successi

19. Oct 2022 13:42 • manül75 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

On top of that… if you play trainingmode, your percentage gets smaller and smaller. I am at 18%, because I played a lot of traininggames, but as an expert wit elo >500 I obviously won more than 50% of my matches.

20. Oct 2022 07:00 • Zero_1627 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Note that win rate can be apparently wrong without actually being wrong :) .

1. Wins in training mode do count, while total games don't (so one win in training mode and one in normal... is 2 wins out of one game)

2. AFAIK listed number of wins is for actual game victories, while calculated is for effective duels.
Example: You have played one game, with 4 players, and You came out second.
Results would be: 0 victories (You wasn't first), but 200% victory rate (because You won vs 3rd and 4th player... so that's 2 _effective_ victoires out of one game, 200% all right).

I agree it would be nice to normalize the above :) (eg. by using the same basis for both number of victories and number of games shown, as well as percentages) - but it's not quite as errorneus as it seems :)

27. Jan 2023 19:34 • WoodyWoodpecker • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

It's very odd and confusing. I only play training mode against 1 person exclusively. Our %ages do not make sense at all. I just want to see how many games I played (to completion), how many I won, how many I lost, how many were draws etc.

29. Apr 2023 08:17 • Clouseau2 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Simple solution:

Create two percentages so that the numbers make more sense.

raw percentage: # games won / # games played
weighed percentage: current percentage calculation

OR just list "weighed percentage"

17. Jun 2023 20:05 • Livini • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

My stats for Gaia Project are wrong because I play a lot of solo games. These are played in Friendly mode, so they aren't counted as 'victories', but this makes it look like I win only 6% of the time, which is not true. Either don't count Friendly games AT ALL for the stats, or count my victories against the Automa as victories. The first option is probably better, since Friendly games aren't really supposed to count for anything.

15. Aug 2023 18:47 • Purple Pawn • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

This is something that has been bothering me as well for a while now. I think I understand how it works, but I don't like it, hence I'm writing this comment.

There are 2 issues at play here:
1) The Number of Games played and Wins that is displayed to you
2) How the "X% of wins" is calculated

1) First is the "X Games" • "X Victories" stat" -> THIS for whatever reason counts the games you play in Friendly mode, but does not count the Victories from that mode.

As an easy example I can use my Ark Nova stats: 7 games played 0 wins - In reality I have played 6 friendly games, out of witch I have won 5 and abandoned 1 (because we wanted to change settings)

I would suggest that Friendly games are not displayed in the "X Games" • "X Victories" stat as such
• Could be displayed for example in this way "0 Games(+6) • 0 Victories"

On a side note, abandoned games are also counted as "Games played" and as a Victory/Lose -> I think this should be changed so that it's not counted if the game ends before "X mins or X% game completed". Obviously the person leaving would still get Karma penalty, but it wouldn't count as game played or win if this happens at the start of the game.

2) As people have pointed out, currently the "X% of wins" is not same as Win Rate, rather it's like a "weighed performance" score based on the number of players you played with.

I would suggest that we change it so that there is just 1 simple number that is an actual Win Rate based on Games player (normal mode/ranked) and Wins.

+there can be additional "Performance Score" next to it, for example if you always place 2nd on a 4 player game, you would still have performance score of 75%, even tho your Win rate is 0%.

6. Sep 2023 18:34 • LordGrok • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Some of the game states are meaningless, others are wrong (bugs).

The sheer number of posts in this and other related threads should be taken as evidence that the system (1) is not well understood (2) makes no darn sense (3) is not liked. It would be great if the feedback was heard and changes were made.

My contention is that:
1. The stats on the prestige page show the total number of all games that were not abandoned, but the number of wins for ranked games only. Pick one or the other, or use the bracket format used on the game page. The % wins is meaningless. The FAQ referring to % hits is not useful.
2. The stats on the game page are fine (yay)
3. The stats on the gamestats page show the incorrect number of victories (this is a bug)

My evidence for this below:

Barrage actual results
* Won 3 ranked games
* Won 3 unranked games
* Conceded 3 * solo games

Barrage expected stats by page
* Prestige: 3 Games (+6) • 3 Victories • 100% wins
* Game: 3 Games (+6) 3 Victories
* GameStats: 9 tables found Victories: 6

Barrage displayed stats by page
* Prestige: 9 Games • 3 Victories • 33% wins (misleading)
* Game: 3 Games (+6) 3 Victories (ok)
* GameStats: 9 tables found Victories: 9 (wrong)

Tapestry actual results
* Won 2 and lost 1 ranked game
* Won 19 and lost 8 solo games
* Abandoned 5 solo games

Tapestry expected stats by page
* Prestige: 3 Games (+27) • 2 Victories • 67% wins
* 3 Games (+27) 2 Victories
* GameStats: 35 tables found Victories: 21

Tapestry displayed stats by page
* Prestige: 30 Games • 2 Victories • 8% wins (misleading)
* 3 Games (+27) 2 Victories (ok)
* GameStats: 35 tables found Victories: 29 (wrong)

Now I realise this thread is old. That this has all been said before. That I wasted a lot of time writing this. But perhaps maybe someone might realise that the only reason someone would spend their time writing a report like this is because the system is not working as it should. And that it should change. Thanks for your consideration.

4. Oct 2023 19:35 • VernoWhitneyJr • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Started playing Sky Team and noticed this oddity continues with its statistics. Even if nothing gets changed regarding regular versus games, since Sky Team is a co-operative game the number of players shouldn't be changing the value of hits, but I still see "8 Games • 6 Victories • 38% wins".

7. Oct 2023 09:40 • JiPaul • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

I would add to all the above that it is not always clear in the display of game statistics between two players to whom victories should be attributed. It would be clearer to write something like: Jipaul won 24 games out of 65 against bd30.

in French : J'ajouterai à tout ce qui précède qu'il n'est pas toujours clair dans l'affichage des statistiques de parties entre deux joueurs à qui il faut attribuer les victoires. Il serait plus clair d'écrire quelque chose comme : Jipaul a gagné 24 parties sur 65 contre bd30.

10. Nov 2023 16:49 • Xanrachs • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

While I think that it's correct to get a higher impact on the win rate if you win a 3 or 4 player game, it's annoying that any game in Training Mode (with friends or solo) affects the win rate negatively.
Any game in Training Mode should be ignored for the calculation of the win rate.

14. Nov 2023 21:13 • cubato • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

In summary, BGA, please don’t count training mode and friendly mode games as games played if you’re not counting their wins. It negatively affects win percentage. I’ve stopped playing in solo mode because of this.

Also, have win percentage be games won regardless of number of opponents and have a separate performance win percentage in parenthesis that shows what you’re currently showing.

20. Jan 2024 22:52 • resisti • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

At the beginning of every type of game, statistics of me vs my opponent show:

2 games played, 1 victory, 50% wins

but under that statistics it shows only 1 game played before the one I am playing so

statistics consider the game I am playing like it have already been lost so please fix this enormous problem.

Thanks

28. Jan 2024 23:44 • Alpha_Dirk • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

I got a distraction of 15 reputation points today. This was incorrect. It hsppened on the afternoon of January 28, 2024. Tonight my points are still not back. There was a message that this would be made in order. It is not, however. Alpha_Dirk Netherlands

30. Jan 2024 01:58 • cigma • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

The % is dependent on the number of players, see boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17149

10. Mar 2024 06:40 • Volts210 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

In single-player mode, whether the match ends in failure or victory, it is counted as a loss in the win rate displayed in the player profile, which is quite frustrating. I suggest either separating the statistics or not counting single-player mode at all.

8. Jun 2024 13:44 • Chris--D • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Also the Prestige Screen seems to list games randomly!
Please could they have a defined order (maybe alphabetical or decreasing ELO) and you could also add options for the user to change the sort order (Name, ELO, No of plays, No of victories, etc).

8. Aug 2024 07:40 • Major Disaster • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

If you hover over your game percentage, the BGA website produces "hover text" that explains how the percentage is calculated.

Given so many people are raising it as a "bug", perhaps BGA need to help out some of us that don't realise there is "hover text" available. For example, an asterisk could be placed after the percentage, or perhaps a dedicated button on the side called "Percentage Explanation" that explains how the percentages are clarified.

27. Sep 2024 04:50 • GiannisIsTheBeast • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

My win percent for Captain Flip and Patchwork are incorrect. I like to play a lot of friendly mode games so that might be messing things up somehow.

For Captain Flip:

Normal games: won 325 of 488 = 66.5%
With friendly games: won 415 of 624 = still 66.5%

It shows a win percent of 60%

27. Sep 2024 04:57 • GiannisIsTheBeast • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Just to add to my previous comment:

My Patchwork win percent shows as 77% and I’m a top 10 ranked player with almost a 90% win percentage if you include friendly or not.

26. Nov 2024 00:09 • blackcat91 • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

DVONN: 2 (+1) Games • 2 Victories • 83% wins
I played 2 ranked, one friendly game, won 3 out of 3, still my win percentage is below 100%...

I understand that BGA has a way to calculate victories in games with 3 players and above, but for 2-player games, this should be easy maths, so something doesn't work as it should - or the system to calculate victory percentage is flawed

24. Nov 2025 14:54 • Skrybowiedzma • O erro aínda non foi reproducido polos desenvolvedores:

Wins in friendly games and wins in solo modes don't count as wins at all. But the games played in friedly/solo modes count. That makes the statistic of win% pretty useless.

I totally agree that the current way of counting should be absolutely changed, because it makes very little sense: a person who played 1000 games 2-player games and won every single one of them would have 100% games won, and a person who played 333 4-player games and won 166 of them, being the last one in the remaining games will also have 100% games won. And both the players faced about 1000 opponents, with the first one beating all of them and the second one beating about 500 of them and loosing to the rest, they have the same stats.

But I get that the whole thing requires more time and consideration. Perhaps you could just change it so that the friendly games and solo games aren't counted towards the number of games played when counting win%? You display the number of the rest games separately, so it is already calculated and I bet implementing this change would be just changing one variable in the formula for win% for another variable that you already have.

#15679: "win percentage stat incorrect"

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