#132354: "Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
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• Por favor, copia e pega a mensaxe de erro que ves na túa pantalla, se houbera algún.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• Por favor, explica o que querías facer, o que fixeche e o que pasou
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
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• É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • Cal é o teu navegador?
Chrome on iPhone
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• Qué había na pantalla cando se quedou bloqueado? (mensaxe de erro?, pantalla en blanco?, unha parte da interface do xogo?)
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • Cal é o teu navegador?
Chrome on iPhone
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• Qué parte das regras non se cumpriron na adaptación da BGA?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• é visible a violación das regras na repetición? Se o é, en que número de movemento?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• Qué acción de xogo querías realizar?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• Qué é o que tratache de facer para activar esta acción do xogo?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• Qué sucedeu cando o fixeche (a mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
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• En que paso do xogo ocorreu o problema (cal foi a instrucción actual do xogo)?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• Qué sucedeu cando tratache de facer unha acción de xogo (mensaxe de erro, mensaxe na barra de estado do xogo, ...)?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • Cal é o teu navegador?
Chrome on iPhone
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• Por favor, copia/pega o texto amosado en inglés no canto do teu idioma. Se tes un pantallazo deste erro (boa práctica), podes usar Imgur.com para subilo e copiar/pegar a ligazón aquí.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• É este o texto dispoñible no sistema de tradución? Se é así, foi traducido fai máis de 24 horas?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
• Cal é o teu navegador?
Chrome on iPhone
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• Por favor explica a túa suxestión de maneira precisa e concisa para que sexa o máis sinxelo posible entender o que queres dicir.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • Cal é o teu navegador?
Chrome on iPhone
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The referenced Discord post:
"I'd prefer to keep targeting requirements as they are, because skilled players won't benefit from this very much, and new players will be hurt a lot. That said, technically you always resolve skills top to bottom, left to right. You spend the action first, gain/spend the courage, then resolve the skill. Similar to demons, if you do not have a valid target, your skill ends. My recommendation for anyone looking to get that little extra juice out of the system is to stop being n00b and get more skillz so you don't need to waste actions like that 😆." - Lowenhigh (Game Designer)
BGA Guidelines prohibit removing these possibilities: boardgamearena.com/doc/BGA_Studio_Guidelines
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III-2 Be careful about player assistance
As a rule of thumb, in order to respect the original board games, you should not introduce any player assistance feature. An assistance must not be introduced if it directly helps the player to figure out if his move is good or bad. An assistance may be introduced if it can help the player to figure out what moves are available.
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"Disallow skills that don’t have valid target"
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"Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
To provide some bonus info: Andrew was replying to the below caution about contradicting the rulebook. He said to keep them as needing valid targets so as to not contradict the rulebook (i.e. skills are not available for use if they don’t have a valid target):
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268201175212232788
Here’s the rule it contradicts on page 18 of the rulebook, it’s pretty black and white:
imgur.com/a/9sqiac6
However, this has been added where it's applicable.
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